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Trade deadline is passed.. and the Rams couldn't pull the trigger on anything. So, what's next?
The Rams can't just give up on this season, obviously, but this year needs to be about developing younger players and thoroughly evaluating what's on their roster. There's a chance they can still make the playoffs, but it's obvious that outside of something very flukey, this isn't a Super Bowl team.
So, how do they get back in the '23 season? A lot of internal improvement, an excellent draft, and adding a couple of key vets from outside.

Here are some of the roster areas and players that I'm very interested on focusing on and believe will be key to getting back on track next year.

Force feed the young safeties. We need to see as much of Yeast, Lake and Burgess as possible, imo. Can any of those three be counted on to contribute next year? Is any one of them going to be a real player? Fuller also needs to show he can be healthy. This is a HUGE area of need.. if we want to see the Rams play tighter coverage more often, and we all do, there needs to be a big improvement here.
Same thing for the corners. Durant needs to be healthy and be on the field.. we need to see Rochell.. good or bad.. and see if he can be the player many of us thought he could develop into. Kendrick has shown early promise.. but has a lot of growing to do and needs to show he can.

Dline.. what is Bobby Brown? You have to know to make decisions on Gaines and Robinson. If he's *not* a real player.. your going to have to not only sign one of Gaines or Robinson, which I think you already have to plan on... you're going to have to dumpster dive. Maybe you'll bring Brockers back on a cheap deal.. and hope you hit on a mid-round contributor. My hope is that Brown really steps up in the second half.

Edge.. really.. not much to see here. Unless Lewis or Hollins make dramatic improvements, the Rams desperately need to find another starter at that position. I'd like to see Hardy.. but he's a gimmick rotational guy, imo.. you have to scheme him to take advantage of his speed, because he's just not big enough to be a regular edge.

ILBS.... Wagner's been good, but I don't know that they don't cut him loose and save 4.5 on the cap and move Ernest Jones to the primary role. There will be tough decisions to make and I just think that this is one obvious area it may happen. We'll see. Maybe we see more of Hummel and Rozeboom? Tough one.

QB.. ride or die with Stafford.. but it'd be fun to see them bring in someone with real potential.. A lucky Burger swing in the draft.

WRs.. I hope they can bring in a little more juice.. and I hope Van can be the deep threat he was last year.

RBs.. This is an interesting spot. Does Akers play like a guy who got a wakeup call? Does he fulfill his potential? Is Williams a solid addition to the room, a solid option? If the answer is "yes" to both of those questions.. you just dropped the need to spend a high pick next draft on the position. Fingers crossed. The Akers question is the most pressing... I think you can get 3rd down backs pretty easily, if you're smart.

TEs.. this room is so "meh" right now. Higbee's fine.. but is getting worn out.. and Hopkins isn't getting much action. We need to see a lot more Hopkins to figure out if he's the answer. Would also be great to see if Carter can be brought up to determine if he's a player.

Oline.. unfortunately, the guys who need to be evaluated most for next season are out hurt. Bruss and Anchrum could be the starting guards next year.. but we have no way to know if they'll be good enough. One option I dismissed too early is Noteboom coming back at LT.. and Anchrum at LG. That *could* be interesting.. with Bruss/Anchrum battling for RG. Either way, they need to draft a couple of guys... including a center because of Allen's recurring kneee issues.

Figure out what you got.. then nail the offseason. Lot's of roster questions.. but, the good news is that some real answers may already be on the roster.

An Oline of Noteboom, Anchrum, Allen, Bruse/Anchrum and Havenstein looks very interesting to me.. and you have a 6th guy already there. With Anchrum.. you have your 3rd tackle already there. They'd still need another tackle.. Arcuri? We'll see.. and absolutely another Center. I'd think they'd look at 9 Olinemen next year.

RB? We get to see how big a need there is for 23, fortunately. If the Akers situation ends up being a plus.. that would be a huge win, going into next year.

Between the young DBs, Bobby Brown.. and lack of second edge.. there's a lot to pay attention to on the Defense the rest of the way.

In a best-case scenario... They'd need to bring in a really good edge to play opposite Floyd.. and the rest of the lineup problems would work themselves out with players on the roster and a solid draft.. in order for the Rams to be a real contender next year, imo.
 

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Cant figure out what's going on with T Lewis. Always figured that once he was healthy he'd be a beast. Well, he's been fairly healthy and yet hasnt done very much. Strange
 

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Trade deadline is passed.. and the Rams couldn't pull the trigger on anything. So, what's next?
The Rams can't just give up on this season, obviously, but this year needs to be about developing younger players and thoroughly evaluating what's on their roster. There's a chance they can still make the playoffs, but it's obvious that outside of something very flukey, this isn't a Super Bowl team.
So, how do they get back in the '23 season? A lot of internal improvement, an excellent draft, and adding a couple of key vets from outside.

Here are some of the roster areas and players that I'm very interested on focusing on and believe will be key to getting back on track next year.

Force feed the young safeties. We need to see as much of Yeast, Lake and Burgess as possible, imo. Can any of those three be counted on to contribute next year? Is any one of them going to be a real player? Fuller also needs to show he can be healthy. This is a HUGE area of need.. if we want to see the Rams play tighter coverage more often, and we all do, there needs to be a big improvement here.
Same thing for the corners. Durant needs to be healthy and be on the field.. we need to see Rochell.. good or bad.. and see if he can be the player many of us thought he could develop into. Kendrick has shown early promise.. but has a lot of growing to do and needs to show he can.

Dline.. what is Bobby Brown? You have to know to make decisions on Gaines and Robinson. If he's *not* a real player.. your going to have to not only sign one of Gaines or Robinson, which I think you already have to plan on... you're going to have to dumpster dive. Maybe you'll bring Brockers back on a cheap deal.. and hope you hit on a mid-round contributor. My hope is that Brown really steps up in the second half.

Edge.. really.. not much to see here. Unless Lewis or Hollins make dramatic improvements, the Rams desperately need to find another starter at that position. I'd like to see Hardy.. but he's a gimmick rotational guy, imo.. you have to scheme him to take advantage of his speed, because he's just not big enough to be a regular edge.

ILBS.... Wagner's been good, but I don't know that they don't cut him loose and save 4.5 on the cap and move Ernest Jones to the primary role. There will be tough decisions to make and I just think that this is one obvious area it may happen. We'll see. Maybe we see more of Hummel and Rozeboom? Tough one.

QB.. ride or die with Stafford.. but it'd be fun to see them bring in someone with real potential.. A lucky Burger swing in the draft.

WRs.. I hope they can bring in a little more juice.. and I hope Van can be the deep threat he was last year.

RBs.. This is an interesting spot. Does Akers play like a guy who got a wakeup call? Does he fulfill his potential? Is Williams a solid addition to the room, a solid option? If the answer is "yes" to both of those questions.. you just dropped the need to spend a high pick next draft on the position. Fingers crossed. The Akers question is the most pressing... I think you can get 3rd down backs pretty easily, if you're smart.

TEs.. this room is so "meh" right now. Higbee's fine.. but is getting worn out.. and Hopkins isn't getting much action. We need to see a lot more Hopkins to figure out if he's the answer. Would also be great to see if Carter can be brought up to determine if he's a player.

Oline.. unfortunately, the guys who need to be evaluated most for next season are out hurt. Bruss and Anchrum could be the starting guards next year.. but we have no way to know if they'll be good enough. One option I dismissed too early is Noteboom coming back at LT.. and Anchrum at LG. That *could* be interesting.. with Bruss/Anchrum battling for RG. Either way, they need to draft a couple of guys... including a center because of Allen's recurring kneee issues.

Figure out what you got.. then nail the offseason. Lot's of roster questions.. but, the good news is that some real answers may already be on the roster.

An Oline of Noteboom, Anchrum, Allen, Bruse/Anchrum and Havenstein looks very interesting to me.. and you have a 6th guy already there. With Anchrum.. you have your 3rd tackle already there. They'd still need another tackle.. Arcuri? We'll see.. and absolutely another Center. I'd think they'd look at 9 Olinemen next year.

RB? We get to see how big a need there is for 23, fortunately. If the Akers situation ends up being a plus.. that would be a huge win, going into next year.

Between the young DBs, Bobby Brown.. and lack of second edge.. there's a lot to pay attention to on the Defense the rest of the way.

In a best-case scenario... They'd need to bring in a really good edge to play opposite Floyd.. and the rest of the lineup problems would work themselves out with players on the roster and a solid draft.. in order for the Rams to be a real contender next year, imo.

Pretty much agree with all you have said here.
It's mid-season and we're still dealing with severe depth problems due to injuries this season and lost personnel from free agency last year. While we foster great hope for getting things turned around in time for this season's play-offs, some of us are anticipating just how we might get back into Super Bowl form for next year. There are those that believe nothing short of a complete re-build is necessary while others among us see a light at the end of the tunnel by more traditional methods, this includes a superior draft and free agency period which enhances the team base we already possess.
I believe my mock expresses how I might proceed, and others will soon offer alternatives, although by & large, we all want what's best to get us back to the promised land. jmo.

 
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I think the Rams not making a big trade or at least a trade that could put them over that preverbal hump is telling. I get the feeling the Rams know they probably wont repeat this year and they'll need every draft pick available and every chance to hit FA hard like they have in the past. Their salary cap is already a mess because of their huge bloated salaries / dead cap and their philosophies are in dire need of being put under a microscope. I love McVay and his system but the biggest issue is if you don't have the horses to run it then it's going to fail pretty miserably which we are seeing happen in real time. This is of course is not taking all of the injuries into account, which adds a whole other issue that is quite honestly out of anyone's control.
 

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They have to start winning more up front on both sides of the ball. Offense is definitely the bigger problem so the OL has to turn it around. The tackles at least are looking good right now. Center is ok, Allen's knee is a time bomb so I'm thinking we're going to need Shelton there for some of the games at least the rest of the way but for now what we need is better guard play. So we are basically dependent on Evans and Aboushi here. Maybe we get Shelton back and he factors in at guard but I don't know that he's any better than Aboushi and frankly I do not miss him being pushed around. Relying on Evans alone is enough to drive me batshit though. So if Shelton returns he probably spells Evans. Either way this is going to remain ugly the rest of the way most likely and we're gonna need to hope the guards both improve.

RB is a mess and it amplifies our OL issues because there is zero inspiration for the big guys to open holes for these backs. Rams really need Cam to pull his head out of his ass and make the most of the limited holes and seams this OL provides. And McVay needs to let him have enough carries to get him into the flow of the game.

Getting Fuller back would be great. I would think he's due to return soon, given that he was originally estimated to be out 2 to 4 weeks. That gives us what should be our best safety pairing with Scott. Though Scott like Rapp has not been great in coverage so they may end up with Fuller/Yeast by season's end.

Durant should be mixed in more. Nice thing with corners is we have excellent depth, our problem is that CB2 and CB3 roles need higher quality production.

Edge our only real hope is Hardy. It's shitty. Maybe someday we'll get him back too.

Rams feel like a wildcard team to me at best due to this OL. So I'm hoping for a playoff berth and they play hard at least in trying to defend their title. Then we have a busy offseason and McSnead get to work.
 

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I disagree with the original premise of our not being a SB contender THIS YEAR.

ANYTHING can happen. Just get to the playoffs.

Remember when we made it to the SB against the Pats? Should have beaten them anyway, but can you imagine if Kupp didn't get hurt?

If we get to the playoffs, all teams deal with unforeseen hiccups that will come into play. We just have to worry about cleaning up our own house and playing the best we can with the current personnel.

I know we CAN do it. Will we? Stay tuned.
 

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I think the Rams not making a big trade or at least a trade that could put them over that preverbal hump is telling. I get the feeling the Rams know they probably wont repeat this year and they'll need every draft pick available and every chance to hit FA hard like they have in the past. Their salary cap is already a mess because of their huge bloated salaries / dead cap and their philosophies are in dire need of being put under a microscope. I love McVay and his system but the biggest issue is if you don't have the horses to run it then it's going to fail pretty miserably which we are seeing happen in real time. This is of course is not taking all of the injuries into account, which adds a whole other issue that is quite honestly out of anyone's control.
We have to embrace a run game. Can coach do that? Is he capable of scheming that philosophy? He has to be, right? He comes from the Shanahan coaching tree and running is always a part of that system. Go rams
 

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Near term future?

You look hard @ the 2019 seven draft selections by Snead/Mcvay. It's highly unlikely that any 2019 draft selections will remain a Ram with a new contract in 2023. The only 2019 draft pick worthy of consideration is Greg Gaines. Even Gaines has had a poor season due to injury.

Not any of the nine 2020 Snead/McVay Draft selections are real positives or have any real benefits to helping this team win. Of the 9 only one is a part-time starter. None have shown they are improving at this point in time. The Akers event is an abortion & just the beginning of issues with the 2020 Snead/McVay draft class.

Going onto the 2021 nine Ram draft selections. Five are on the MR53. ILB'er Ernest Jones is the only starter who is currently helping this team. The top 2nd rd WR pick is also causing much serious heartburn in this forum. Thus causing most members to continue to beg & lust that an aged well injured OBJ be signed or a retread Brandon Cooks.

In this season's eight selections...this rookie draft class has just 1 major contributing MR53 player CB Kendrick. The closest other rookie is Cobie Durant who did play in 2 gms and has 2 tackles. This season's draft class is much more positive than 2019/ 2020/ 2021. None of the other 6 selections have any stats or have contributed to this team. None are starters.

Having 33 draft selections in four drafts & the results of this overview on them is ugly ...if you don't see this as a real ongoing issue going into the future with this Ram Org you never will. No wonder Snead/McVay have voiced loud profane slogan bout draft picks. :not:
 

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We have to embrace a run game. Can coach do that? Is he capable of scheming that philosophy? He has to be, right? He comes from the Shanahan coaching tree and running is always a part of that system. Go rams

He totally is. When he had the horses back in 2018-19 the Rams were one of the most feared running teams in the NFL. it's not like McVay doesn't run the ball. The Rams just aren't any good at it
 

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The run game won't be fixed until next season imo. The group they have leaves a lot to be desired. I fully expect them to trade for a back after the season is over. Just my opinion
 

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Cant figure out what's going on with T Lewis. Always figured that once he was healthy he'd be a beast. Well, he's been fairly healthy and yet hasnt done very much. Strange
I feel like i never see Lewis rushing the QB. Not sure if there are some stats to support that or not. Maybe he does and just isn’t very effective at getting to the QB and showing up on screen. Or maybe indeed they are primarily having him drop back and/or simply contain the edge. Idk. Felt like he had some hurries early in season and since it’s been invisible QB rushing wise.
 

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I feel like i never see Lewis rushing the QB. Not sure if there are some stats to support that or not. Maybe he does and just isn’t very effective at getting to the QB and showing up on screen. Or maybe indeed they are primarily having him drop back and/or simply contain the edge. Idk. Felt like he had some hurries early in season and since it’s been invisible QB rushing wise.
I agree. Just seemed like he was more engaged when he only got a handful of plays, and he'd make the most of them. Like a 6th man coming off the bench for a run. Now? I dont even realize he's out there and you're right, when he is it just doesnt appear to be rushing the QB
 

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I disagree with the original premise of our not being a SB contender THIS YEAR.

ANYTHING can happen. Just get to the playoffs.

Remember when we made it to the SB against the Pats? Should have beaten them anyway, but can you imagine if Kupp didn't get hurt?

If we get to the playoffs, all teams deal with unforeseen hiccups that will come into play. We just have to worry about cleaning up our own house and playing the best we can with the current personnel.

I know we CAN do it. Will we? Stay tuned.
19?
The Rams were better in every unit except for QB and ILB that year.
TE is basically the same…
You could argue Ramsey makes the corner unit better… but that group in 18 kicked ass… especially in the playoffs.

I don’t understand the comp at all.
 

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how come you overlook Jackson @ OT
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Poor writing on my part, thanks for catching.
He’s absolutely a factor.. I just don’t know who the Rams “best 5” lineman are.. and whether they want to cut Noteboom to save a little money.

But I love Alaric Jackson.. that’s why I started a thread calling him the real deal :)