Ram Players PFF Grades vs. Seattle

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Rams PFF grades: Best and worst performers vs. Seahawks in Week 9​

cameron dasilva
Mon, Nov 4, 2024, 12:42 PM MST·4 min read

SEATTLE, WASHINGTON - NOVEMBER 03: Jaylen McCollough #39 of the Los Angeles Rams celebrates a interception during the first quarter of a game against the Seattle Seahawks at Lumen Field on November 03, 2024 in Seattle, Washington. (Photo by Steph Chambers/Getty Images)
Make it three straight wins for the resurgent Rams, who are back in the mix in the NFC West at 4-4. They took down the Seahawks on the road Sunday, beating their rivals 26-20 in overtime on a 39-yard touchdown pass from Matthew Stafford to Demarcus Robinson.
Now that they're getting healthy, the Rams are a team to watch down the stretch, looking like a legitimate playoff contender in a weak division that's completely up for grabs. And though their win over the Seahawks wasn't always pretty, it did show that the defense is hitting its stride and the offense has found a rhythm with Cooper Kupp and Puka Nacua back.
Here are the best and worst performers from Sunday's game based on PFF's grades (min. 10 snaps).

Top 5 offense​

Nov 3, 2024; Seattle, Washington, USA; Los Angeles Rams wide receiver Demarcus Robinson (15, middle) celebrates with teammates, including wide receiver Cooper Kupp (10, left), after catching a game-wining touchdown pass against the Seattle Seahawks during overtime at Lumen Field. Mandatory Credit: Joe Nicholson-Imagn ImagesMore

• RG Kevin Dotson: 86.9
• WR Demarcus Robinson: 86.5
• WR Cooper Kupp: 79.5
• C Beaux Limmer: 73.3
• RT Warren McClendon Jr.: 70.9

Dotson was decent in pass protection, allowing just two pressures, but he was downright dominant as a run blocker (89.2).
Robinson hauled in six of his nine targets for 94 yards, including the game-winner in overtime.
Kupp caught 11 passes for 104 yards, picking up four first downs and forcing two missed tackles.
Limmer didn't allow a pressure all game long and McClendon only gave up one in relief of Rob Havenstein.

Top 5 defense​

SEATTLE, WASHINGTON - NOVEMBER 03: Kamren Kinchens #26 of the Los Angeles Rams catches an interception during the fourth quarter of a game against the Seattle Seahawks at Lumen Field on November 03, 2024 in Seattle, Washington. (Photo by Steph Chambers/Getty Images)

• S Kamren Kinchens: 87.8
• NT Bobby Brown III: 79.5
• S Jaylen McCollough: 74.1
• OLB Jared Verse: 72.2
• CB Darious Williams: 71.5

Kinchens had the best game of his career on Sunday, picking off two passes and making three tackles. He returned his first interception 103 yards for a touchdown.
Brown had an 82.4 run defense grade, the second-best on the team.
McCollough intercepted his fourth pass of the season, stepping up with Kam Curl banged up.
Verse tied with Kobie Turner for a team-high seven pressures, but it was his outstanding 88.3 run defense grade that really stood out. He was all over the field for the Rams.
Williams was targeted five times and allowed three catches for 63 yards, also making five tackles.

Bottom 5 offense​

Nov 3, 2024; Seattle, Washington, USA; Seattle Seahawks cornerback Riq Woolen (27) intercepts a pass intended for Los Angeles Rams wide receiver Puka Nacua (17) during the first half at Lumen Field. Mandatory Credit: Steven Bisig-Imagn Images

• WR Tutu Atwell: 54.6
• WR Puka Nacua: 49.4
• TE Hunter Long: 48.7
• LG Justin Dedich: 47.2
• TE Colby Parkinson: 41.9

Atwell and Nacua had minimal impacts on this game. Atwell caught one pass for 16 yards and Nacua caught one for 11 before being ejected.
Long caught one pass for 4 yards and his 60.8 run blocking grade was a bit disappointing, too.
Dedich allowed a team-high four pressures and finished with a 45.9 run-blocking grade, which was the lowest of any Rams lineman.
Parkinson saw his role shrink against the Seahawks, only running 21 routes and seeing zero passes thrown his way.

Bottom 5 defense​

SEATTLE, WASHINGTON - NOVEMBER 03: Jaxon Smith-Njigba #11 of the Seattle Seahawks catches a pass in front of Cobie Durant #14 of the Los Angeles Rams during the fourth quarter at Lumen Field on November 03, 2024 in Seattle, Washington. (Photo by Steph Chambers/Getty Images)

• DT Desjuan Johnson: 55.0
• CB Ahkello Witherspoon: 52.7
• DT Kobie Turner: 50.1
• S Kam Curl: 50.0
• CB Cobie Durant: 30.0

Johnson only played 10 snaps and had zero pressures and zero tackles in that limited playing time.
Witherspoon gave up three catches for 40 yards on four targets, missing two total tackles in the win.
Turner's grade is shockingly low considering he had seven pressures and made three stops. PFF has never been very high on him when it comes to grading.
Curl only played half the game and struggled when he was on the field, missing two tackles and allowing 25 yards in coverage.
Durant was torched by Jaxon Smith-Njigba and the Seahawks' receivers all game, giving up 93 yards on five catches (seven targes).

Other notables​

Nov 3, 2024; Seattle, Washington, USA; Los Angeles Rams defensive tackle Braden Fiske (55) celebrates following a sack against Seattle Seahawks quarterback Geno Smith (7) during the fourth quarter at Lumen Field. Mandatory Credit: Joe Nicholson-Imagn Images

• DT Braden Fiske: 62.3
• RB Kyren Williams: 60.2
• QB Matthew Stafford: 60.0
• S Quentin Lake: 57.8

Somehow, Fiske only had a grade of 62.3 despite recording five pressures, missing zero tackles and consistently blowing things up in the backfield. PFF seems to have whiffed with his grade because he was undoubtedly one of the best players on the field.
Williams was limited to 69 yards on 22 carries, but he should've had much more than that. He had at least 40 yards called back due to holding penalties on the offense.
Stafford led the Rams on a game-winning drive in overtime and made three big-time throws, but PFF pinned him with four turnover-worthy plays, his most all year.
Lake had one pressure on a blitz and missed one tackle, but he finished second on the team with eight total tackles. He was blamed as the man in coverage on Smith-Njigba's 46-yard reception, though.
This article originally appeared on Rams Wire: Rams PFF grades: Best and worst performers vs. Seahawks in Week 9

 

[thirteen28]

Fiske and Kobie should be ranked higher. Kobie played well and Fiske was a fucking monster in the middle (and those two things are probably connected).

 

[Merlin]

Not to take away from Dedich's performance in his first two games, but it seems like the league is gonna focus on him now. It's one thing to look good as an OL for a brief period, but another entirely to survive DCs throwing different matchups at you until they start to crack on your weaknesses.

That said I'm not too worried about him vs Miami. But it sure would be nice if Avila would get the fuck back.

 

[Tano]

Not to take away from Dedich's performance in his first two games, but it seems like the league is gonna focus on him now. It's one thing to look good as an OL for a brief period, but another entirely to survive DCs throwing different matchups at you until they start to crack on your weaknesses.

That said I'm not too worried about him vs Miami. But it sure would be nice if Avila would get the fuck back.

McVay has opened the window for both Avila and Jonah Jackson to resume practicing with the team this week.

He also stated he has hopes they can both play this week against Miami.

However, Havenstein is out with an ankle injury this week. McVay doesn't expect it to keep Havenstein out too long though.

 

[Merlin]

However, Havenstein is out with an ankle injury this week. McVay doesn't expect it to keep Havenstein out too long though.

Yeah I'd say the matchup that would worry me with McClendon out there would be Campbell over him. That dude is underrated as hell as per usual. But overall Miami's defense doesn't worry me too much. More worried about what a stout test that Miami offense will be.

The good Stafford's gonna have to show up for most of this game I think.

 

[HE WITH HORNS]

Gotta have someone take Dedich spot on the oline.
But Limmer stays there, even if both guys are healthy.
If it ain't broken, don't try to "fix" it.

 

[Tano]

Yeah I'd say the matchup that would worry me with McClendon out there would be Campbell over him. That dude is underrated as hell as per usual. But overall Miami's defense doesn't worry me too much. More worried about what a stout test that Miami offense will be.

The good Stafford's gonna have to show up for most of this game I think.

Noteboom might play RT - sometimes I think he is a good player that can't stay healthy and other times ....

 

[TexasRam]

Wow PFF has really outdone themselves here.

Giving Verse a 72 shows you either did not watch the game or your scoring system is broken.

Same with Fiske and several other players.

 

[Merlin]

Wow PFF has really outdone themselves here.

Giving Verse a 72 shows you either did not watch the game or your scoring system is broken.

Same with Fiske and several other players.

They're fucking idiots. Honestly. Way too much focus on snap to snap bean counting vs impact plays. Or just clueless fucks doing the grading.

 

[methomas50]

Bobby Brown having a nice season and doing a lot of the dirty work. I still don't trust him enough to pay him though.

 

[fearsomefour]

Bobby Brown having a nice season and doing a lot of the dirty work. I still don't trust him enough to pay him though.

Pay the man....
He does the dirty work and occupies things for the LB....now, improving the ILB would help a lot.
Have to remember B Brown is still a very young player....I think he is important to bring back.

 

[fearsomefour]

They're fucking idiots. Honestly. Way too much focus on snap to snap bean counting vs impact plays. Or just clueless fucks doing the grading.

I wonder if he and Turner got dinged for the offsides flags....I would assume so.
But, I think you may be on to something too.

 

[kurtfaulk]

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Did the seagulls have one big play that didn't happen with someone on the dline going offside? I can't remember.

I can understand the dbs getting burnt the first time after losing focus. But 4 or 5 times.

Db coach better tear them a new one at practice this week.

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[Elmgrovegnome]

Pay the man....
He does the dirty work and occupies things for the LB....now, improving the ILB would help a lot.
Have to remember B Brown is still a very young player....I think he is important to bring back.

There in lies the question. Was his inconsistent play due to his youth and immaturity? Or is he playing year four to get a big contract. It’s always hard to tell in this instance

 

[DzRams]

I wonder if he and Turner got dinged for the offsides flags....I would assume so.
But, I think you may be on to something too.

Yes, they ding for penalties.

And he is on to something. PFF doesn't grade for impact plays. Per their website, "Each player is given a grade of -2 to +2 in 0.5 increments on a given play with 0 generally being the average or “expected” grade." They're not trying to grade for impact plays at crunch time or critical moments.

As with any stat or metric, it's useful to provide general guidance on what's happening on the field. Nothing is the gospel including the old-school eyeball test.

 

[DzRams]

There in lies the question. Was his inconsistent play due to his youth and immaturity? Or is he playing year four to get a big contract. It’s always hard to tell in this instance

There is quite a bit of evidence that his inconsistency was due to his youth. The man was only 21 when we drafted him. He actually played very well the second half of last season so what he's doing now is just a continuation of that. And the second half of last year wasn't a contract year.

That said, I wouldn't pay him, and I doubt the Rams do either—just like they didn't pay Greg Gaines. I don't think they prioritize paying run-stuffing DL. Those guys are pretty easy to find in the fourth round and later. Tyler Davis is his replacement.

 

[Kupped]

There is quite a bit of evidence that his inconsistency was due to his youth. The man was only 21 when we drafted him. He actually played very well the second half of last season so what he's doing now is just a continuation of that. And the second half of last year wasn't a contract year.

That said, I wouldn't pay him, and I doubt the Rams do either—just like they didn't pay Greg Gaines. I don't think they prioritize paying run-stuffing DL. Those guys are pretty easy to find in the fourth round and later. Tyler Davis is his replacement.

Was Gaines a "run stuffer"?
I'd say not.
The "run stuffer" on that line was A'Shawn. Gaines did best penetrating, imo.
I think they need a body like Brown's around.

 

[Memento]

There is quite a bit of evidence that his inconsistency was due to his youth. The man was only 21 when we drafted him. He actually played very well the second half of last season so what he's doing now is just a continuation of that. And the second half of last year wasn't a contract year.

That said, I wouldn't pay him, and I doubt the Rams do either—just like they didn't pay Greg Gaines. I don't think they prioritize paying run-stuffing DL. Those guys are pretty easy to find in the fourth round and later. Tyler Davis is his replacement.

He was actually twenty when we drafted him; his birthday is August 7th, 2000.

I wouldn't pay him either; too inconsistent, has had maturity issues (which concerns me with a huge contract), and someone is going to pay him far more than we will...but I hope he continues to ball out.

 

[DzRams]

Was Gaines a "run stuffer"?
I'd say not.
The "run stuffer" on that line was A'Shawn. Gaines did best penetrating, imo.
I think they need a body like Brown's around.

I'd say Gaines was both. He was rated about the same in both categories. He's never been a pass-rush specialist and has only had one good year with sacks. All other years he had moderate to low pass rush numbers.

I agree that A'Shawn was the run stuffer on that line. They let him go, too. I haven't seen a strong priority from them on dedicated run stuffers.

 

[Londoner]

has had maturity issues

Isn’t it possible that these could be attributed to his young age? Aren’t issues with immaturity likely to lessen as a player ages?

I like the player but we don’t seem to value the position, so I doubt that we’ll pay him what other teams will offer.