NFL Owners 2025 Spring Meetings

[CGI_Ram]

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[kent.nelson]

Is this being banned because it is too good or is it a medical thing like drop hip?

 

[FaulkSF]

Is this being banned because it is too good or is it a medical thing like drop hip?

Too good at this point. Based on the history though, assisting a runner used to be a penalty. It still is at youth, high school, and college levels. It’s scary for o linemen as they know they will be punished with contact, but the injury data doesn’t equate to a dangerous play.

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

Too good at this point. Based on the history though, assisting a runner used to be a penalty. It still is at youth, high school, and college levels. It’s scary for o linemen as they know they will be punished with contact, but the injury data doesn’t equate to a dangerous play.

Chris Jones injured his neck defending a tush push.

Either way it’s aiding the runner from behind the LOS. That has never been legal in my lifetime. The first time the Eagles used that play, the ref should have flagged them for assisting the runner. That would have ended it.

 

[OldSchool]

Is this being banned because it is too good or is it a medical thing like drop hip?

Player safety is their reason for trying to ban it.

 

[kent.nelson]

Too good at this point. Based on the history though, assisting a runner used to be a penalty. It still is at youth, high school, and college levels. It’s scary for o linemen as they know they will be punished with contact, but the injury data doesn’t equate to a dangerous play.

Chris Jones injured his neck defending a tush push.

Either way it’s aiding the runner from behind the LOS. That has never been legal in my lifetime. The first time the Eagles used that play, the ref should have flagged them for assisting the runner. That would have ended it.

Excuse my ignorance but I thaught it was the QB keeping the ball? Or does both happen?

 

[OldSchool]

They're also going to vote on seeding the playoffs by record, division champs will get in but it doesn't benefit anyone.

 

[FaulkSF]

Excuse my ignorance but I thaught it was the QB keeping the ball? Or does both happen?

If the QB has no intent of passing the ball, I.e. no throwing motion, the QB is a runner and not a passer. Same thing on rugby style kicks we don’t see as often in the NFL. If a punter takes 5 or 6 steps before kicking he is no longer afforded the same kicking protections.

 

[kent.nelson]

If the QB has no intent of passing the ball, I.e. no throwing motion, the QB is a runner and not a passer. Same thing on rugby style kicks we don’t see as often in the NFL. If a punter takes 5 or 6 steps before kicking he is no longer afforded the same kicking protections.

This is one of those little snippets of info that I miss not being a usa based fan? I don't think that's been explained in a game I've watched or it has and I missed it. In my defence if I'm wrong games kick off 9pm and 1am GMT most of the time.

Thank you for the insight.
So it should be illegal under aiding the runner rule, totally agree

 

[kent.nelson]

They're also going to vote on seeding the playoffs by record, division champs will get in but it doesn't benefit anyone.

Mcvay spoke out about this and proposed a better system I think?

 

[Londoner]

In my defence if I'm wrong games kick off 9pm and 1am GMT most of the time.

East Coast games generally start at 6pm UK time, while West Coast games start at 9:05 or 9:25pm UK time. The only games that start late at night in the UK are the Prime Time games stateside.

 

[RamFan503]

Either way it’s aiding the runner from behind the LOS. That has never been legal in my lifetime. The first time the Eagles used that play, the ref should have flagged them for assisting the runner. That would have ended it.

So it should be illegal under aiding the runner rule, totally agree

I believe the aiding the runner rule was changed a few years ago. So I don't think the refs CAN throw a flag on it unless they change the rule back. I think this is basically what they are discussing.

 

[FaulkSF]

Thank you for the insight.
So it should be illegal under aiding the runner rule, totally agree

You’re welcome, but pushing a runner is still legal in the NFL (think premier league). All levels of gridiron below there (non-professional and affiliated with educational schools) it is illegal to assist a runner.

The owners should be weighing the pros and cons this week, and make a decision if it is good for the NFL level.

 

[dieterbrock]

I dont think its a penalty because its too hard to stop or that players will get hurt. I just think it defies the spirit of the game.
Why not catapult a player over the line then? Why not jump on a players shoulders to catch a high pass?

 

[majrleaged]

It should be banned because it was not the intention of the rule change.
They envisioned as a play progressed down the field sometimes there would be scrums and they didn't want a penalty called on lineman just playing to the whistle. Not guys lining up behind the QB at the line of scrimmage and pushing as actual play call.

 

[majrleaged]

Now the league is worried about looking like being poor sports cause a team is to good at the play.
Instead they should just look at what the initial reason for changing the rule, point it out to the owners. There isn't an owner that doesn't want to vote it out but they got to look like they have a legitimate reason other than they can't beat them at it.

 

[kent.nelson]

East Coast games generally start at 6pm UK time, while West Coast games start at 9:05 or 9:25pm UK time. The only games that start late at night in the UK are the Prime Time games stateside.

We have 4, 6pm games this year. Atm 4, 1am and 7 9pm. Then London and 1 TBD
so it's 11 late nights with young kids this year and was 12 last year in my defence.

UK times before Americans get confused.

 

[OldSchool]

Mcvay spoke out about this and proposed a better system I think?

Do you have his comments on it? I must have missed them.

 

[kent.nelson]

Do you have his comments on it? I must have missed them.

4 min mark, I miss heard it, he is against it! Because we don't play all 15 divisional rivals, it would only work if we did.

View: https://youtu.be/v37h6CGwBKI?si=O36Owo-SGVRM0z3X

 

[Londoner]

We have 4, 6pm games this year. Atm 4, 1am and 7 9pm. Then London and 1 TBD
so it's 11 late nights with young kids this year and was 12 last year in my defence.

UK times before Americans get confused.

This is the schedule adjusted for UK start times: