NFL Announces No Changes Will Be Made To Roughing The Passer Penalty

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NFL Announces No Changes Will Be Made To Roughing The Passer Penalty

The NFL is not shying away from controversy stemming from several Week 5 penalties that sparked debate across the league. In a tweet sent out Wednesday

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NFL Announces No Changes Will Be Made To Roughing The Passer Penalty​

The NFL is not shying away from controversy stemming from several Week 5 penalties that sparked debate across the league.

In a tweet sent out Wednesday afternoon, Adam Schefter announced that the NFL is not changing any rules that relate to the protection of players' health and safety.

"A league source said today that 'there is no backing down on enforcing rules that are in place to protect the health and safety of players, including quarterbacks, who by rule are considered defenseless players when they are in a passing posture'," Schefter reported.

Schefter noted in a follow-up tweet that roughing the passer penalties are actually down this season as compared to last, by nearly 45%.

Despite this, some fans were hoping that the league might relax or alter rules relating to the enforcement of these types of penalties in light of two controversial calls this weekend.

Chiefs' Chris Jones and Falcons' Grady Jarrett were both called for roughing the passer penalties in Week 5, with the latter essentially ending any chance for an Atlanta comeback attempt.

With several highly anticipated games in Week 6 including Chiefs vs. Bills, any further borderline penalties will surely bring more attention to the subject.

 

[Flint]

This penalty has become entirely subjective unfortunately. Jarret threw Brady to the ground “unnecessarily”, what does that mean and how do you measure it? If you grab a guy around the waist and pull him down he’s going to land on top of you, stand up and complete a pass. Guys like Allen and Hurts and Mahomes are big enough that you better make sure they’re on the ground.
The nfl isn’t going to admit they blew the Chris Jones call, Jones took the ball from Carr so he wasn’t able to use that hand to brace himself leading to the ridiculous “full body weight” explanation. When did that become a rule anyway? It’s totally arbitrary, a huge guy like Jones is going to look worse automatically. Are they going to blow it dead when you get a handful of jersey to keep guys from getting slung down? This is really a Pandora’s box.

 

[AvengerRam]

I get why the league does not want to admit mistakes, but let's be honest... the call on Jones was horrible, and the one on Jarrett was patently absurd and unquestionably an example of the "Brady Rules."

 

[Jacobarch]

Roughing the QB has always been a bs rule. The second they took the QB and made him a special player it became subjective.

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

No change to roughing the passer penalty.

Translation: it’s legal to hit any QB not named Tom Brady

 

[AZRams]

Yes, but are the QBs gonna start wearing tutus?

 

[Snaz]

They need to add back "in the grasp" so that it balances out then.

 

[kurtfaulk]

This penalty has become entirely subjective unfortunately. Jarret threw Brady to the ground “unnecessarily”, what does that mean and how do you measure it? If you grab a guy around the waist and pull him down he’s going to land on top of you, stand up and complete a pass. Guys like Allen and Hurts and Mahomes are big enough that you better make sure they’re on the ground.
The nfl isn’t going to admit they blew the Chris Jones call, Jones took the ball from Carr so he wasn’t able to use that hand to brace himself leading to the ridiculous “full body weight” explanation. When did that become a rule anyway? It’s totally arbitrary, a huge guy like Jones is going to look worse automatically. Are they going to blow it dead when you get a handful of jersey to keep guys from getting slung down? This is really a Pandora’s box.

I disagree completely.

AD used to land on qbs with his full body weight all the time. As soon as they changed the rule so you couldn't do that he took qbs down and fell to the side straight away. I've never seen him get a roughing call.

He's a smart player. Others are not so smart.

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[CanadaRam]

I’ll be in the minority here but Jones landed full body weight on the QB. Exactly what was made a point of emphasis. No attempt to avoid. Definite penalty. We may not like it but the ref applied the rules in place,
The Brady penalty on the other hand was a farce. Jarret tackled exactly how the NFL videos teach players. Ridiculous call by a ref with a reputation of doing it his own way.

 

[CGI_Ram]

I disagree completely.

AD used to land on qbs with his full body weight all the time. As soon as they changed the rule so you couldn't do that he took qbs down and fell to the side straight away. I've never seen him get a roughing call.

He's a smart player. Others are not so smart.

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I am amazed how well Donald/others control the takedown sometimes. Stuff is happening so fast out there.

In THIS era of the NFL… they need to protect the QB’s. Too much of team success depends on the starting QB. That means there will be some bad calls we need to accept, even if we don’t like it.

 

[RamDino]

In my opinion, this penalty needs to be evaluated with replay. It is way too subjective and inconsistent.

 

[Flint]

I disagree completely.

AD used to land on qbs with his full body weight all the time. As soon as they changed the rule so you couldn't do that he took qbs down and fell to the side straight away. I've never seen him get a roughing call.

He's a smart player. Others are not so smart.

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AD is a smart player but he’s also 50 lbs lighter and more agile than Jones.
Once Jones takes the ball away what is his responsibility? Maybe they should’ve tried to challenge the call, Jones had the ball in his possession before he falls on Carr so how can the roughing negate the fumble? Once a fumble occurs it’ll be hard to give a qb protection from guys falling on him trying to get the ball but that’s what happened and that’s a whole other can of worms.

 

[kurtfaulk]

AD is a smart player but he’s also 50 lbs lighter and more agile than Jones.
Once Jones takes the ball away what is his responsibility? Maybe they should’ve tried to challenge the call, Jones had the ball in his possession before he falls on Carr so how can the roughing negate the fumble? Once a fumble occurs it’ll be hard to give a qb protection from guys falling on him trying to get the ball but that’s what happened and that’s a whole other can of worms.

Jones didn't even try to move to the side. He's fucking dumb. You think the refs were gonna allow that after what happened to tua?

It sickens me that the media tried to compare that with the text book sack by jarrett.

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[Flint]

Jones didn't even try to move to the side. He's fucking dumb. You think the refs were gonna allow that after what happened to tua?

It sickens me that the media tried to compare that with the text book sack by jarrett.

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He probably believed it didn’t matter at that point, Jones has the ball, he would like to take off with it, he’s probably not focused on Carr any more. He falls on top of Carr, he’s down by contact. Chiefs ball.

 

[HitStick]

I’ll be in the minority here but Jones landed full body weight on the QB. Exactly what was made a point of emphasis. No attempt to avoid. Definite penalty. We may not like it but the ref applied the rules in place,
The Brady penalty on the other hand was a farce. Jarret tackled exactly how the NFL videos teach players. Ridiculous call by a ref with a reputation of doing it his own way.

The QB was no longer a QB when Jones had the ball. He became a defender. All bets are off. It was a bad call.

 

[AvengerRam]

Brady has now been fined $11K for kicking Jarrett after the sack.

So the refs made two errors on that play.

 

[snackdaddy]

So the refs can still pick and choose when the throw the flag. QB's like Brady get more calls. The message is don't sack Tom Brady. Basically business as usual.

 

[leoram]

The solution is simpler. The rule in place is a good one. The refs are instructed to err on the side of caution and throw the flag. That makes sense. But real time personal fouls, ALL OF THEM, should be reviewed to see what is impossible in real time. To me, this includes fights. How often are both guilty but only one charged. We have the tech. GET IT RIGHT!

 

[Steve808]

This penalty has become entirely subjective unfortunately. Jarret threw Brady to the ground “unnecessarily”, what does that mean and how do you measure it? If you grab a guy around the waist and pull him down he’s going to land on top of you, stand up and complete a pass. Guys like Allen and Hurts and Mahomes are big enough that you better make sure they’re on the ground.
The nfl isn’t going to admit they blew the Chris Jones call, Jones took the ball from Carr so he wasn’t able to use that hand to brace himself leading to the ridiculous “full body weight” explanation. When did that become a rule anyway? It’s totally arbitrary, a huge guy like Jones is going to look worse automatically. Are they going to blow it dead when you get a handful of jersey to keep guys from getting slung down? This is really a Pandora’s box.

I'm sick and FN tired of the league having a rule for brady and a rule for the rest. I didn't care for Cam Newton but he got hammered at times and no flags. I used to think if Brady got some of the same hits, the field would be completely yellow every single official throwing a flag.

In the NFCCG, Stafford got a blow in the back from Fred Warner. No call. Tell me if Brady got that hit, no flag would have been tossed??

I already don't care for Brady and the cheatriots. The double standard just pisses me off.

My thought is you might as well pick up Brady and pile drive him in into the ground with your entire weight and make the penalty worth it.

 

[CanadaRam]

The QB was no longer a QB when Jones had the ball. He became a defender. All bets are off. It was a bad call.

Are you saying it is roughing if there is no fumble and because of the fumble there is no roughing?
That makes no sense to me.