interesting..
I think he'll be moved around all over the field, but on nickle situations, he'll be the nickle back.i was hoping he'd be used like mathieu - not primarily nickle
So who would you want us to play the nickel? I hope you're not thinking McGee because he was really bad last year.Ramrasta trying to split the baby:
I think we should play him at FS most of the time because he is an upgrade to McLeod/Cody and E.J. Gaines is starting slot material. Why not try it?
He was saying Gaines would be the nickle corner. But McGee was a guy everyone knew would need to be coached up. Maybe he can start to turn it around this yearSo who would you want us to play the nickel? I hope you're not thinking McGee because he was really bad last year.
I hope your right about Gaines broke but after looking at the OSU game, posted in the other thread, I see why he was a 6th rounder. Look at that whole game and tell me if you can find an instance where he actually tackled an opposing player. I'm not talking about times where he was a heat seeking missile and used his shoulder to knock the guy down, I'm talking about an actual wrap your arms around a guy and bring him down tackle. Then find an instance where he defeated a block. Does he need to do that playing centerfield? Probably not but Fisher (as everyone keeps telling me but I don't actually see it on the field) likes to have his safeties play FS and SS. No way can this guy play SS effectively IMO. He also has crappy small hands. I can't remember exactly but I think he should have had two INTs that he muffed.brokeu91 picking Gaines:
He was saying Gaines would be the nickle corner. But McGee was a guy everyone knew would need to be coached up. Maybe he can start to turn it around this year
I hope your right about Gaines broke but after looking at the OSU game, posted in the other thread, I see why he was a 6th rounder. Look at that whole game and tell me if you can find an instance where he actually tackled an opposing player. I'm not talking about times where he was a heat seeking missile and used his shoulder to knock the guy down, I'm talking about an actual wrap your arms around a guy and bring him down tackle. Then find an instance where he defeated a block. Does he need to do that playing centerfield? Probably not but Fisher (as everyone keeps telling me but I don't actually see it on the field) likes to have his safeties play FS and SS. No way can this guy play SS effectively IMO. He also has crappy small hands. I can't remember exactly but I think he should have had two INTs that he muffed.
What I do like about him is his coverage skills. There not great but not bad either. Is that enough? I'm not sure if that's enough but what I am sure of is McGee played horribly last year and counting on a 6th round player to be a productive starter is folly.
I think Joyner is our only real option at nickel and that's why they're penciling him in there.
I hope your right about Gaines broke but after looking at the OSU game, posted in the other thread, I see why he was a 6th rounder. Look at that whole game and tell me if you can find an instance where he actually tackled an opposing player. I'm not talking about times where he was a heat seeking missile and used his shoulder to knock the guy down, I'm talking about an actual wrap your arms around a guy and bring him down tackle. Then find an instance where he defeated a block. Does he need to do that playing centerfield? Probably not but Fisher (as everyone keeps telling me but I don't actually see it on the field) likes to have his safeties play FS and SS. No way can this guy play SS effectively IMO. He also has crappy small hands. I can't remember exactly but I think he should have had two INTs that he muffed.
What I do like about him is his coverage skills. There not great but not bad either. Is that enough? I'm not sure if that's enough but what I am sure of is McGee played horribly last year and counting on a 6th round player to be a productive starter is folly.
I think Joyner is our only real option at nickel and that's why they're penciling him in there.
I don't even factor him in because he's a guy that could be cut after TC, become a quality starter or anything in between. You could say that about any of our rookies but this guy takes that to a new level.Lunchbox asking about a known unknown:
What about Greg Reid?
Tackling can be taught but it's not that he isn't a good tackler, he didn't even try to tackle a guy. I think that's because he he has no ability to bring a guy down at speed with his small frame. He'd probably come out second best in those scenarios.CGI_Ram looking on the bright side:
Well a silver lining; tackling is a technique that can be taught.
Coverage skills, on the other hand, have a lot more to do with god given talents like speed and quickness.
Tackling can be taught but it's not that he isn't a good tackler, he didn't even try to tackle a guy. I think that's because he he has no ability to bring a guy down at speed with his small frame. He'd probably come out second best in those scenarios.
But you're right about coverage skills and taking a page out of your book, there was a HOF DB who couldn't tackle interviewing picks on the first day of the draft at ESPN.
I hope your right about Gaines broke but after looking at the OSU game, posted in the other thread, I see why he was a 6th rounder. Look at that whole game and tell me if you can find an instance where he actually tackled an opposing player. I'm not talking about times where he was a heat seeking missile and used his shoulder to knock the guy down, I'm talking about an actual wrap your arms around a guy and bring him down tackle. Then find an instance where he defeated a block. Does he need to do that playing centerfield? Probably not but Fisher (as everyone keeps telling me but I don't actually see it on the field) likes to have his safeties play FS and SS. No way can this guy play SS effectively IMO. He also has crappy small hands. I can't remember exactly but I think he should have had two INTs that he muffed.
What I do like about him is his coverage skills. There not great but not bad either. Is that enough? I'm not sure if that's enough but what I am sure of is McGee played horribly last year and counting on a 6th round player to be a productive starter is folly.
I think Joyner is our only real option at nickel and that's why they're penciling him in there.