Did two rookie first rounders just violate the NFL gambling rules?

[AvengerRam]

So…

View: https://x.com/mysportsupdate/status/1788578686465118317?s=46

NFL Gambling Rule:

1. No betting on the NFL. "All NFL Personnel are prohibited from placing, soliciting, or facilitating any bet, whether directly or through a third party, on any NFL game, practice or other event (e.g., Draft or Combine). This includes betting on game outcome, statistics, score, performance of any individual participant, 'futures,' or any other kind of 'proposition bet' in any way related to the NFL (regardless of whether such bet involves actual on-field play) (e.g., prop bets related to Gatorade color, pre- or post-game events, halftime show, off-field player conduct or outcomes, etc.)"

How is that not a violation?

 

[Loyal]

Were they in the NFL when they made these bets?

 

[AvengerRam]

Were they in the NFL when they made these bets?

They will be when the bet plays out.

 

[Dodgersrf]

It’s interesting, but good luck finding a paper trail on a friendly, “hand shake” wager amongst friends.

 

[AvengerRam]

It’s interesting, but good luck finding a paper trail on a friendly, “hand shake” wager amongst friends.

They don’t deny it.

View: https://x.com/allfactspod/status/1788312921606410573?s=46

 

[Loyal]

They will be when the bet plays out.

Can someone withdraw legitimate bets that were made before being bound by regulations of an organization to which they did not yet belong?

 

[AvengerRam]

Can someone withdraw legitimate bets that were made before being bound by regulations of an organization to which they did not yet belong?

Sure. And that’s what should happen. The NFL should quietly notify these guys that they can’t do this and let them announce that they canceled their bet. No punishment necessary, but the right message if the league wants to maintain a “zero tolerance” policy.

 

[OldSchool]

No they didn't

Breaking down the NFL gambling policy: Here are three rules every player in the league must follow

NFL players need to follow these three rules if they don't want to get in trouble

www.cbssports.com

1. No betting on the NFL. "All NFL Personnel are prohibited from placing, soliciting, or facilitating any bet, whether directly or through a third party, on any NFL game, practice or other event (e.g., Draft or Combine). This includes betting on game outcome, statistics, score, performance of any individual participant, 'futures,' or any other kind of 'proposition bet' in any way related to the NFL (regardless of whether such bet involves actual on-field play) (e.g., prop bets related to Gatorade color, pre- or post-game events, halftime show, off-field player conduct or outcomes, etc.)"

Breakdown -- This rule is pretty clear and it applies to both players and league personnel: No one is allowed to gamble on any NFL-related events.

2. Betting on other sports. "All NFL Personnel other than players are further prohibited from placing, soliciting, or facilitating bets on any other professional (e.g., NBA, MLB, NHL, PGA, USTA, MLS), college (e.g., NCAA basketball), international (e.g., World Baseball Classic, World Cup), or amateur (e.g., Olympic, AAU) sports competition, tournament or event."


Breakdown: This rule is slightly more confusing. NFL players ARE allowed to bet on other sports, but other league personnel are NOT allowed to bet on other sports. League personnel can only partake in non-sports gambling and they have to do it on their own personal time. NFL personnel also aren't allowed to visit any sportsbooks while the NFL season is going on.

3. No gambling in the work place. This is the rule that Williams allegedly broke. Here's the rule from the league, "NFL Personnel shall not engage in any form of Gambling in any club or League facility or venue (e.g., practice facility, stadium, team hotel, Draft or other League or club event); on any League or club charter or other transport; while traveling on club or League business; or while making an endorsement or promotional appearance."

Breakdown: Although players ARE allowed to gamble on other sports, they ARE NOT allowed to make bets while at a team facility or venue.

 

[AvengerRam]

View: https://x.com/dcsportsbog/status/1788671219757170928?s=46

 

[OldSchool]

View: https://x.com/dcsportsbog/status/1788671219757170928?s=46

They bet on a popularity contest. Nothing about the ROY contest affects the games wins or losses. Also was the bet made while they were at their respective team facilities?

 

[Jacobarch]

I've said it once and I'll say it again. Gambling will eventually ruin the NFL's integrity.

 

[AvengerRam]

They bet on a popularity contest. Nothing about the ROY contest affects the games wins or losses. Also was the bet made while they were at their respective team facilities?

It is a bet on the “performance of individual participants,” which is not allowed and, as I said, the bet would play out after they sign their deals (the rule is not limited to gambling at the facility if a bet involves the NFL).

I’m not suggesting that it was nefarious or likely to be harmful, but zero tolerance means ZERO tolerance.

 

[RhodyRams]

personally, I don't think should be considered a violation.... it's just 2 friends making a friendly wager

but, the powers that be may say different

 

[RamFan503]

personally, I don't think should be considered a violation.... it's just 2 friends making a friendly wager

but, the powers that be may say different

This ^^^

 

[rdlkgliders]

They are drafted not signed yet so no binding contract attaching them to the team. Not sure if a future payout as an NFL employee made prior to the contract signing is grounds for investigation. Does entering the draft imply they intend to be an NFL employee and carry some legal agreement language attached to the declaration of eligibility? That may be interesting to read, I guess we will all learn something from this eventually

 

[Psycho_X]

If it's simply between each other I don't think it's an issue. If it was through a sanctioned betting establishment I think that's an issue. But who the hell knows. NFL will do whatever it wants. Talking about it in an interview is probably a dumb idea though.

 

[Ramhusker]

If it's simply between each other I don't think it's an issue. If it was through a sanctioned betting establishment I think that's an issue. But who the hell knows. NFL will do whatever it wants. Talking about it in an interview is probably a dumb idea though.

They said they were damn good at football. Don’t know if I’ve heard a claim of common sense though. I’d say, ahhhh, no.

 

[dang]

Educate them on the rules against betting. Then move on.

 

[Ellard80]

They bet on a popularity contest. Nothing about the ROY contest affects the games wins or losses. Also was the bet made while they were at their respective team facilities?

its a bet based on performance

I think its dumb though... should always be able to bet on yourself to win or do well.

 

[kurtfaulk]

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Man it must be a boring time of the year if this is a story.

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