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Having been on the other end of this as Rams fans from the 2001 Spygate scandal, how do you all really feel about cheating? In the Olympics, athletes who get caught doping or cheating get their medals stripped & handed to the next runner up. I feel this protects the integrity of Olympic sports. Lance Armstrong got ALL his Tour wins vacated too -- being someone who used to look up to him, I hate it, but it's the right thing to do. USC under Pete Carroll also comes to mind.
But, when the Patsies were dinged by the NFL for what seemed like a slap on the wrist, do you feel like that helped us fans trust the NFL? or did you lose trust in it? Loaded question, sorry. Or, how about the 2017 Astros who were caught cheating in the WS? MLB slapped them on the wrist too. In a close 4-3 win over the (ahem) LA Dodgers, don't you think their cheating made a difference in their win?
Astros fans, and Pasty fans, would tell you to quit yer cryin', everyone cheats, etc., etc. But I know for a fact that many fans have left both the NFL and MLB for it's loss of integrity. Those slaps on the wrists were slaps in our faces. Don't these teams play for the fans anyway? or, do they just not care that much about us anymore because it's all about the TV sponsorship $$$ now? I guess they found out when stadiums were empty last year. Do sports rules even matter anymore, or is it all just for show? I guess it's possible, if you can control everything the TV audiences see.
If I were the 'stros or the 'pats, I would voluntarily vacate my wins & hand my trophy to the Dodgers / Rams, because no matter what, it will never erase the stain from my victory. So what if new fans are born everyday, who won't remember what they did; so what if some fans will look the other way, just because they want some entertainment? or because they're fans of the winner (who happens to be owned by a powerful team owner)? Their selfishness harms the entire league. So I guess you all know where I stand on this lol, not just because I'm a jilted Rams fan, but because I care about the sports I watch -- I hate feeling like I'm watching something fake. If I wanted to watch a fake sport I'd watch "pro" wrestling.
But, when the Patsies were dinged by the NFL for what seemed like a slap on the wrist, do you feel like that helped us fans trust the NFL? or did you lose trust in it? Loaded question, sorry. Or, how about the 2017 Astros who were caught cheating in the WS? MLB slapped them on the wrist too. In a close 4-3 win over the (ahem) LA Dodgers, don't you think their cheating made a difference in their win?
Astros fans, and Pasty fans, would tell you to quit yer cryin', everyone cheats, etc., etc. But I know for a fact that many fans have left both the NFL and MLB for it's loss of integrity. Those slaps on the wrists were slaps in our faces. Don't these teams play for the fans anyway? or, do they just not care that much about us anymore because it's all about the TV sponsorship $$$ now? I guess they found out when stadiums were empty last year. Do sports rules even matter anymore, or is it all just for show? I guess it's possible, if you can control everything the TV audiences see.
If I were the 'stros or the 'pats, I would voluntarily vacate my wins & hand my trophy to the Dodgers / Rams, because no matter what, it will never erase the stain from my victory. So what if new fans are born everyday, who won't remember what they did; so what if some fans will look the other way, just because they want some entertainment? or because they're fans of the winner (who happens to be owned by a powerful team owner)? Their selfishness harms the entire league. So I guess you all know where I stand on this lol, not just because I'm a jilted Rams fan, but because I care about the sports I watch -- I hate feeling like I'm watching something fake. If I wanted to watch a fake sport I'd watch "pro" wrestling.