Air India Flight 171

[Merlin]

What a terrible tragedy first off, feel so sorry for the families involved.

Also I wouldn't be flying on a Boeing 787 right now. Been sniffing around a bit on the details of what went down and it looks to me like they're either going to find out they have software issues, or they have a software vulnerability that was used to down that plane. Both of which are things that would prevent me from setting foot on that airframe until it's figured out.

 

[Neil039]

The fact that one person survived is absolutely remarkable. Luckiest man on the planet during this disaster IMO.

 

[CGI_Ram]

What a terrible tragedy first off, feel so sorry for the families involved.

Also I wouldn't be flying on a Boeing 787 right now. Been sniffing around a bit on the details of what went down and it looks to me like they're either going to find out they have software issues, or they have a software vulnerability that was used to down that plane. Both of which are things that would prevent me from setting foot on that airframe until it's figured out.

It’s the first accident on one of these aircrafts, however, right?

Speculation includes a massive bird strike, but a twin engine failure is odd.

 

[Merlin]

They found the black box so this should be interesting.

 

[Londoner]

Also I wouldn't be flying on a Boeing 787 right now.

I don’t fly at all. Or take ships.

Man is a land animal - we aren’t designed to survive in the air or the sea.

 

[Ramhusker]

They had problems on the flight before, ac went out, passenger seat tvs went out, lights went out. It definitely was a sick bird.

 

[Loyal]

I don’t fly at all. Or take ships.

Man is a land animal - we aren’t designed to survive in the air or the sea.

Thank God for the chunnel! ~ Londoner

 

[CGI_Ram]

They had problems on the flight before, ac went out, passenger seat tvs went out, lights went out. It definitely was a sick bird.

Oh. I didn’t hear that, but electrical problem might be it.

A former pilot on YouTube said he thought in a grainy photo it appeared the emergency power prop was deployed to generate electricity. That jives with an electrical problem.

 

[FaulkSF]

What a terrible tragedy first off, feel so sorry for the families involved.

Also I wouldn't be flying on a Boeing 787 right now. Been sniffing around a bit on the details of what went down and it looks to me like they're either going to find out they have software issues, or they have a software vulnerability that was used to down that plane. Both of which are things that would prevent me from setting foot on that airframe until it's figured out.

Boeing won’t admit it but the auxiliary power unit on their 767s are defective and overheat on hot days. About two years ago, many of us had delays due to APU malfunctioning in the Southwest US.

The APU provides cabin air conditioning. On a hot day, there is no way a full plane should be in the air or tarmac for hours with a busted air conditioning unit.

 

[OldSchool]

It’s the first accident on one of these aircrafts, however, right?

Speculation includes a massive bird strike, but a twin engine failure is odd.

Yeah first accident from this model. There are reports that the flight crew had logged maintenance issues that were ignored. I'd seen several pilots, I'm obviously not one I just play one sometimes on Friday nights, speculate that a fire caused the flaps to not raise or that the co pilot hit the flaps instead of raising the landing gear (actual pilots speculation watching the video).

Either way it's tragic so much lost life.

 

[kent.nelson]

Could the surviver have a more British response when asked how he escaped...
"I managed to unbuckle myself, used my leg to push through that opening, and crawled out,"

 

[Merlin]

Boeing won’t admit it but the auxiliary power unit on their 767s are defective and overheat on hot days. About two years ago, many of us had delays due to APU malfunctioning in the Southwest US.

The APU provides cabin air conditioning. On a hot day, there is no way a full plane should be in the air or tarmac for hours with a busted air conditioning unit.

Yes and it supplies power on the ground as well. And it does not surprise me. The FAA has been politicized for years now, and with so much money at stake they often hide issues. When I retired I had many years of releasing aircraft safe for flight under my belt, and a couple of the better job offers I had were from Boeing STL. But I also had some very good reasons for not joining them.

It will be interesting to see what is listed as the cause for this crash. And it won't surprise me if they try to hang it on the pilot. We'll see.

 

[Merlin]

I'm obviously not one I just play one sometimes on Friday nights, speculate that a fire caused the flaps to not raise or that the co pilot hit the flaps instead of raising the landing gear (actual pilots speculation watching the video).

Today's avionics systems are incredible and have grown to prevent some of the potential basic human mistakes that could be made like trying to take off without flaps or raising the flaps instead of the landing gear. And I am not familiar with the 787's specifically, never worked on them, but I would guess the system prevents such an occurrence.

 

[Londoner]

with so much money at stake they often hide issues.

That doesn’t just apply to the FAA, of course. It’s everywhere in the modern world.

 

[OldSchool]

Today's avionics systems are incredible and have grown to prevent some of the potential basic human mistakes that could be made like trying to take off without flaps or raising the flaps instead of the landing gear. And I am not familiar with the 787's specifically, never worked on them, but I would guess the system prevents such an occurrence.

I'm just repeating what somebody who's flown one, by his word, said could have been a cause of this. If you want to disagree that's fine just conveying what I saw.