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I remember there being much discussion about what would become of the STL football market once the Rams returned to LA. To be perfectly honest I still felt the Rams would draw well there.

I recall several teams reaching out on social media to STL fans to join up with their teams. Chicago was a popular pick from those on the outside looking in. I remember Indy reached out on social media to appeal to STL fans. Tennessee also did something similar. Nobody really knew.

Alas, years later we may have found a surprising answer. Is it just a fluke or a lasting trend? None the less it is a surprise.

 

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Chiefs are highest rated TV programs in St. Louis

https://www.stltoday.com/sports/colu...b05299441.html
St. Louis hates the NFL? Baloney — market draws nation's third-best rating for Chiefs-Bills: Media Views

We know the popular thing to say in St. Louis about the NFL, which scorned the town, is a string of choice obscenities that can’t be printed here.

We also know that those same kind of harsh words have been directed at Stan Kroenke, who moved the Rams back to Los Angeles in 2016 — after years of neglect in St. Louis so he could blast the market for not blindly supporting his intentionally putrid product, thus strengthening his exit plan.

We also know that Dallas Cowboys owner Jerry Jones, who supported the move, and Kansas City Chiefs owner Clark Hunt, who was in favor of it so his team would control Missouri, have been the targets of a lesser amount of vitriol in the Gateway City.

“The hell with the NFL, we’ll never watch a game again,” is the sanitized version of a lot of St. Louisans’ venom.

While that type of bravado might make those who say it feel better about the way they have been treated by the league, the bottom line is that such tough talk merely is false bravado.

Quite simply, according to television viewership figures, the Chiefs have taken over the St. Louis market. The numbers say they are more popular than the Blues, Mizzou and even the Cardinals — let alone any other programming, local or national.

The latest example came Sunday, when the Chiefs beat the Buffalo Bills in a scintillating game that came down to the wire and was viewed by just over 50 million people nationally via CBS television and its Paramount+ streaming service. That’s a record for an NFL conference semifinal game, according to Nielsen, which measures viewership.

Of course, the best ratings were in the cities of the teams that were competing in the game: 54.9% of the Buffalo market tuned in, while the Kansas City figure was 53.4.

Next on the list wasn’t any NFL storied city — not Pittsburgh, Dallas, Philadelphia, San Francisco or anywhere else in the league. Nope, it was jilted St. Louis, which continued its remarkable run in television viewership of Chiefs games. Nielsen says the game, shown locally on KMOV (Channel 4), was seen in 31.9% of the market. That edged an NFL town, Baltimore (31.8) for the top spot outside the cities of the teams playing in the game.

“That’s incredible,” Channel 4 vice president and general manager JD Sosnoff said. “St. Louis loves football and the Chiefs.”

For perspective, the game beat the top-rated Cardinals baseball game last season (10.6) by a more than a 3-to-1 figure. And it slammed the capper to Mizzou’s best football season in nearly a decade, the 13.6 rating for the Tigers’ Cotton Bowl victory over Ohio State.

That also continued a run of dominance on St. Louis television by the Chiefs. Although exact figures were not readily available, it is believed that 31.9 rating they generated Sunday is the top figure for any program shown in the market since the Super Bowl last February — which KC won and drew a massive 42.6 rating in this market.

Since then, six Chiefs regular-season contests pulled a rating in St. Louis of at least 17, which all likely rank in the top 10 for viewership in the market over the past year. So counting the Super Bowl and Sunday’s playoff contest, it is very possible that the Chiefs occupy the top eight spots among the best-rated programs on St. Louis television in the past year — and perhaps all 10.

Meanwhile, the other NFL playoff game Sunday also drew a huge local rating — 19% of the market watched Detroit beat Tampa Bay earlier in the day on KSDK (Channel 5), according to Nielsen. The two Sunday games outdrew the pair of contests the day before. Nonetheless, the Saturday matchups had big ratings — especially considering that day traditionally is the lowest-rated one of the week.

Baltimore’s lopsided victory in the afternoon over Houston produced a combined St. Louis rating of 14.6 across KDNL (Channel 30) and ESPN. At night, KTVI (Channel 2) rang in with a 17.2 figure for its telecast of San Francisco’s narrow victory over Green Bay.

Looking ahead, the Chiefs play in Baltimore on Sunday for the AFC championship and a slot in the Super Bowl. KMOV has the game at 2 p.m.

“I don’t know you top that” rating for the Buffalo game, Sosnoff said. “But I bet it’s going to be spectacular.”

Channel 2 has the NFC finale, Detroit-San Francisco, at 5:30 p.m. Sunday.
 

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I would attribute that to the fans in The Lou basically adopting the chiefs as their own now. Right down the road in the same state.
 

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I sort of equate it to people who say they’ll leave the country if the president turns out to be, fill in the blank.
Heard it from both sides so it’s not a political statement.
Sports are the best entertainment and choosing to boycott is only hurting oneself
 

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I would attribute that to the fans in The Lou basically adopting the chiefs as their own now. Right down the road in the same state.

Screw that. Rams for fucking life for me. My dad's basically said that "If a team moves to St. Louis, you will root for them," and I told him point blank, "No, the Rams are my team for life."

If a team moved to the Lou, I would only go to their games if the Rams were playing in that stadium.
 

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Missouri has great fans. I live closer to STL than KC, mid-state, and see an occasional Rams fan here and there. But I see KC fans everywhere.

I am rooting for STL to get their own team. It'll happen someday.
 

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The Chiefs are all they got, so they root for them.
Hope the fans and Tay Tay are happy together.
I our house we were rooting for the Bills just so we did not have to see her face anymore.
 

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I sort of equate it to people who say they’ll leave the country if the president turns out to be, fill in the blank.
I know someone who actually made good on this threat, haha. Moved to Canada..... moved back a year later with tail between legs. People are too emotional...

Disclaimer: This is not a shot at our friends up in the Great White North (I'm 50% Canuck ). This emotional lil feller was just not built for that cold I guess....
 

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The Lou has never been a bad football market. The Ed Dome was filled to max and one of the loudest venues in the NFL until a record breaking losing decade coupled with the behind the scenes scheming to get the Rams back in LA leaving fans hesitant to invest in a team that wouldn't 100% commit. Billionaires can't pass up more billions unfortunately for the fans.

In the end, the biggest fuck up the NFL did was allowing Kroenke to help Georgia move the Rams to St. Louis in the first place and not place the expansion team that went to Jacksonville in the Lou. Would have saved a lot of people a lot of trouble and heartache.
 

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I know someone who actually made good on this threat, haha. Moved to Canada..... moved back a year later with tail between legs. People are too emotional...

Disclaimer: This is not a shot at our friends up in the Great White North (I'm 50% Canuck ). This emotional lil feller was just not built for that cold I guess....
I visited Vancouver B.C. I don’t like cities but that’s a city I could happily live in.
 

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The Lou has never been a bad football market. The Ed Dome was filled to max and one of the loudest venues in the NFL until a record breaking losing decade coupled with the behind the scenes scheming to get the Rams back in LA leaving fans hesitant to invest in a team that wouldn't 100% commit. Billionaires can't pass up more billions unfortunately for the fans.

In the end, the biggest fuck up the NFL did was allowing Kroenke to help Georgia move the Rams to St. Louis in the first place and not place the expansion team that went to Jacksonville in the Lou. Would have saved a lot of people a lot of trouble and heartache.
Yes. The nature of fandom kind of indicates teams shouldn't be left up to singular, capricious owners. I think the way the Packers are more publicly owned makes more sense. I'm surprised there isn't more legality involved, since teams market themselves as inextricably attached to localities; they're not known as "the Kroenke Rams" or the "Jones Cowboys" etc. after all. The locality is an aspect of the product fans purchase.
 

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I know someone who actually made good on this threat, haha. Moved to Canada..... moved back a year later with tail between legs. People are too emotional...

Disclaimer: This is not a shot at our friends up in the Great White North (I'm 50% Canuck ). This emotional lil feller was just not built for that cold I guess....
I would move to South America before I moved to Canada. It is too fricken cold.
 

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The Lou has never been a bad football market. The Ed Dome was filled to max and one of the loudest venues in the NFL until a record breaking losing decade coupled with the behind the scenes scheming to get the Rams back in LA leaving fans hesitant to invest in a team that wouldn't 100% commit. Billionaires can't pass up more billions unfortunately for the fans.

In the end, the biggest fuck up the NFL did was allowing Kroenke to help Georgia move the Rams to St. Louis in the first place and not place the expansion team that went to Jacksonville in the Lou. Would have saved a lot of people a lot of trouble and heartache.
That would have been a lot smarter.

Every time I hear Georgia's name brings up nightmares. Gawd I hated that creature.
 

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What's funny is my wife's family (Missourians) were all Rams fans after they stole the team from LA and that era was kind of cool in that way. Then after LA "stole" them back they all hate the Rams and act like jilted lovers. But it makes for fun family get togethers. For myself that is.

I like to wear my Faulk jersey to those. :laugh4: