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This is not a vent thread. You can put that stuff next to my post in the vent thread.
Having said that, i am not happy with this unit and would like to discuss what our options are going forward after this season(we're 2-5). I'm no capologist, so your input is definitely welcome here.
LT
I would like to go ahead and move G.Robinson over to LT next season. Let him finish this season at Guard, or maybe give him some LT opportunities(i haven't heard any word on J.Long's status).
I'm confident that GRob can be at least as good as Jake Long is today by the time we get to week 1 next season. Long has 2 years left on a 4 year deal. His play has been very average IMO. I don't care about his knee injury 2 years ago either. He's an old 29.
His salary info: http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/st.-louis-rams/jake-long/
Can we just release him? If i'm reading it right the dead money cost isn't an issue. This job needs to be Robinson's in 2015.
Mike Person is a backup who will be an UFA in 2015. He knows the system, has been plugged in at a fw positions and hasn't been terrible. Developing. Re-sign him cheap or look for talent in the draft to back up the Tackle position.
RT
Joe has been quiet. Quiet good. He's been a reliable rock at RT. Not outstanding at anything but good at everything. He's 25 yrs old. He's well liked in the locker room it appears. He will command some dollars. Pay him. There will be money free'd up.
His salary info: http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/st.-louis-rams/joe-barksdale/
He will be an UFA in 2015. Again...pay him. We need to start looking at keeping our younger talent who have shown the ability to BE RELIABLE.
C
Scott Wells info: http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/st.-louis-rams/scott-wells/
There's no reason to keep Wells around anymore. He's 33, mostly ineffective and injury prone. He has one year left on his deal. $4.7mill cap hit in 2015. No thanks.
Maybe we've all been wrong and impatient about Barrett Jones. I'm not a believer but maybe he really is finally ready to stay healthy and start in 2015. Jones has two years left on a rookie 4 year deal.
Tim Barnes is a RFA in 2015. Rams have had him in and out of the system here since 2011. Knows the system. Maybe he's the guy who is ready to step in? Idk. Rams probably choose to keep one of either Jones or Barnes. Just my opinion.
Rams need to grab some insurance here if Wells is let go. Free agency doesn't look too promising.
LG/RG
Robinson shouldn't be the guy here in 2015. He was drafted to be an impact LT. Put him there day one at training camp next season. Mike Person has stepped in at Guard at times(like today)and been JAG. Again i think Person might get re-signed.
Rodger Saffold. [sigh] I'm calm....[exhales]. This is the killer.
His salary info: http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/st.-louis-rams/rodger-saffold/
Four years left on a $31million deal. Maybe some of you feel that his on the field play justifies his fragility(and now his salary). I'm willing to listen to those arguments. Rams can't release Saffold obviously. Maybe they can trade him? No i don't think so. We're stuck with Saffold. I didn't like this signing when it happened. I felt the risk was 5 times higher than the J.Long signing. I suppose we just need to solidify the one Guard position opposite Rodger in the offseason and make sure we have depth there...because Saffold will be in and out of games for us for the next THREE YEARS at least.
D.Joseph has been valuable while Grob sat, but a liability in terms of his play on the field. He's a vet who will be ready to play. Thats it.
He's on a one year deal. I doubt he comes back. He's stayed healthy which is nice, but has been a disappointment on the field in a starting role.
Rams will need to address the Guard position regardless in 2015.
Mike Iupati will be an UFA. He's 27 yrs old. Has had a rough season with a concussion and been nicked up a bit, but there's talk that the Niners can't afford to bring him back. Iupati is a 2012,2013 Pro Bowler who would fit in nicely here next to GRob.
My Last word
This group has largely underachieved. I'm not saying that they've been bad, but it's an aging, injury prone, expensive group that hasn't been dominating at all at any time...and has only been really good about half the time IMO. We have some youth there with GRob, Barksdale, Jones, Barnes, Person...but there isn't alot of pure talent there.
I want to hit the reset button here. Build the OLine around our bookend Tackles(Robinson/Barksdale). Use the draft and be smarter in FA. There is plenty of skill position talent here now on offense. Yes we're going to have decisions to make at QB too, we've got WAY too much money tied up in our OLine so lets look at a fresh start there.
Having said that, i am not happy with this unit and would like to discuss what our options are going forward after this season(we're 2-5). I'm no capologist, so your input is definitely welcome here.
LT
I would like to go ahead and move G.Robinson over to LT next season. Let him finish this season at Guard, or maybe give him some LT opportunities(i haven't heard any word on J.Long's status).
I'm confident that GRob can be at least as good as Jake Long is today by the time we get to week 1 next season. Long has 2 years left on a 4 year deal. His play has been very average IMO. I don't care about his knee injury 2 years ago either. He's an old 29.
His salary info: http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/st.-louis-rams/jake-long/
Can we just release him? If i'm reading it right the dead money cost isn't an issue. This job needs to be Robinson's in 2015.
Mike Person is a backup who will be an UFA in 2015. He knows the system, has been plugged in at a fw positions and hasn't been terrible. Developing. Re-sign him cheap or look for talent in the draft to back up the Tackle position.
RT
Joe has been quiet. Quiet good. He's been a reliable rock at RT. Not outstanding at anything but good at everything. He's 25 yrs old. He's well liked in the locker room it appears. He will command some dollars. Pay him. There will be money free'd up.
His salary info: http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/st.-louis-rams/joe-barksdale/
He will be an UFA in 2015. Again...pay him. We need to start looking at keeping our younger talent who have shown the ability to BE RELIABLE.
C
Scott Wells info: http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/st.-louis-rams/scott-wells/
There's no reason to keep Wells around anymore. He's 33, mostly ineffective and injury prone. He has one year left on his deal. $4.7mill cap hit in 2015. No thanks.
Maybe we've all been wrong and impatient about Barrett Jones. I'm not a believer but maybe he really is finally ready to stay healthy and start in 2015. Jones has two years left on a rookie 4 year deal.
Tim Barnes is a RFA in 2015. Rams have had him in and out of the system here since 2011. Knows the system. Maybe he's the guy who is ready to step in? Idk. Rams probably choose to keep one of either Jones or Barnes. Just my opinion.
Rams need to grab some insurance here if Wells is let go. Free agency doesn't look too promising.
LG/RG
Robinson shouldn't be the guy here in 2015. He was drafted to be an impact LT. Put him there day one at training camp next season. Mike Person has stepped in at Guard at times(like today)and been JAG. Again i think Person might get re-signed.
Rodger Saffold. [sigh] I'm calm....[exhales]. This is the killer.
His salary info: http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/st.-louis-rams/rodger-saffold/
Four years left on a $31million deal. Maybe some of you feel that his on the field play justifies his fragility(and now his salary). I'm willing to listen to those arguments. Rams can't release Saffold obviously. Maybe they can trade him? No i don't think so. We're stuck with Saffold. I didn't like this signing when it happened. I felt the risk was 5 times higher than the J.Long signing. I suppose we just need to solidify the one Guard position opposite Rodger in the offseason and make sure we have depth there...because Saffold will be in and out of games for us for the next THREE YEARS at least.
D.Joseph has been valuable while Grob sat, but a liability in terms of his play on the field. He's a vet who will be ready to play. Thats it.
He's on a one year deal. I doubt he comes back. He's stayed healthy which is nice, but has been a disappointment on the field in a starting role.
Rams will need to address the Guard position regardless in 2015.
Mike Iupati will be an UFA. He's 27 yrs old. Has had a rough season with a concussion and been nicked up a bit, but there's talk that the Niners can't afford to bring him back. Iupati is a 2012,2013 Pro Bowler who would fit in nicely here next to GRob.
My Last word
This group has largely underachieved. I'm not saying that they've been bad, but it's an aging, injury prone, expensive group that hasn't been dominating at all at any time...and has only been really good about half the time IMO. We have some youth there with GRob, Barksdale, Jones, Barnes, Person...but there isn't alot of pure talent there.
I want to hit the reset button here. Build the OLine around our bookend Tackles(Robinson/Barksdale). Use the draft and be smarter in FA. There is plenty of skill position talent here now on offense. Yes we're going to have decisions to make at QB too, we've got WAY too much money tied up in our OLine so lets look at a fresh start there.