20 Random (Red) Zoned Out Thoughts

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AvengerRam

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1. There's a lot to unpack here, but the key to tonight's loss could not be more clear: Red Zone failures.

2. Three golden opportunities to get into the End Zone... three failures.

3. From there, the chain reaction starts...

4. Instead of the Bengals playing from behind, forcing Joe Burrow to do much, the Bengals were able to chip away and, ultimately, wear down a defense that, overall, did a good job.

5. Instead of the Rams being able to play to protect a lead, they had to play from behind.

6. Playing from behind on the road against a desperate team would be bad enough... if it were not for a key injury.

7. WTF is a former Dolphins MLB doing playing LT?????

8. Yes, I know it wasn't that Zach Thomas, but it may as well have been.

9. I have to give a lot of blame to Sean McVay. His play calling was poor. The word I'd use is "impatient." Instead of using the running game in the Red Zone (which he didn't do until his ill-timed running play on the final drive), he had Stafford drop back, leaving him vulnerable to the pass rush.

10. Why, in a game that was close throughout, do you call 12 running plays and 40 passing plays (again, particularly with the protection issues that became particularly pronounced after Jackson left the game)? The Rams averaged 5.8 ypc on those runs, so its not like we abandoned the run because it wasn't working. McVay gets a very bad grade tonight.

11. Stafford also gets a sub-par grade. Yes, he was under duress way too much (6 sacks, 10 QB hits). But there were some plays in which he held the ball too long, and he had some poor throws.

12. Third down play... abysmal. Again, the inability to protect Stafford was the key here, but the failure to play methodically to avoid 3rd and long was a big key here.

13. Its hard to blame the defense. Yes, I'd like to see more than 1 turnover forced in three games, but they're not getting enough chances to pin their ears back and really pressure.

14. My defensive MVP is Aaron Donald. 7 tackles, 2 TFL, 1 sack, 2 QB hits.

15. My offensive MVP (somewhat by default) is Tutu Atwell. He contributed two big plays and the Rams' only TD (missing a second TD by a half inch).

16. Hopefully, Jackson's injury is minor, but it will be a short week for him to heal. If he can't go, I'd put Noteboom at LT and Anchrum at RG. Thomas doesn't belong out there.

17. We really missed Cooper Kupp tonight. As amazing as Puka Nacua has been, Kupp is unique. No way do we fail to convert 10 straight 3rd downs with him on the field.

18. If anyone has an impulse to blame the defense, here's a stat for you... The defense allowed only 4.7 yards per play, despite having to be on the field for 36 minutes.

19. Byron Young is a keeper.

20. Off to Indy. First game against a non-playoff team from last year. A win would bring us back to .500, with Kupp (hopefully) coming back for a three game home stand (Eagles, Cardinals, Steelers). There are opportunities ahead but, if tonight showed us anything, if you fail to grab those opportunities, it will come back to bite you.
 

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Some good points. I agree with almost all of it, but not on the defence. The defence was okay, but nothing more than that IMO. Especially considering how gimpy Joe Burrow was. The Bengals essentially played with 1/2 a QB. We should have completely shut them down, but didn't. Generating pressure was an issue outside of Donald. You also can't concede 3rd and long that many times. It will burn you every time in games as close as this one, and it is a back breaker for momentum, it can really turn the tide in a game. Extremally poor showing situationally. They were so poor situationally against a QB playing on 1 leg that I cannot give them a grade anything above "average". 3rd down is money down. You gotta have it.
 

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9. I have to give a lot of blame to Sean McVay. His play calling was poor. The word I'd use is "impatient." Instead of using the running game in the Red Zone (which he didn't do until his ill-timed running play on the final drive), he had Stafford drop back, leaving him vulnerable to the pass rush.

10. Why, in a game that was close throughout, do you call 12 running plays and 40 passing plays (again, particularly with the protection issues that became particularly pronounced after Jackson left the game)? The Rams averaged 5.8 ypc on those runs, so its not like we abandoned the run because it wasn't working. McVay gets a very bad grade tonight.

These two say it all. 1-8 and 11-20 are just noise, no offense. The two items above are all you need to know about why we lost.

And as far as the grade goes, if there's something worse than an F-, then that's what he gets.
 

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Some good points. I agree with almost all of it, but not on the defence. The defence was okay, but nothing more than that IMO. Especially considering how gimpy Joe Burrow was. The Bengals essentially played with 1/2 a QB. We should have completely shut them down, but didn't. Generating pressure was an issue outside of Donald. You also can't concede 3rd and long that many times. It will burn you every time in games as close as this one, and it is a back breaker for momentum, it can really turn the tide in a game. Extremally poor showing situationally. They were so poor situationally against a QB playing on 1 leg that I cannot give them a grade anything above "average". 3rd down is money down. You gotta have it.
The Bengals were 5-17 on 3rd down.

The problem is that the defense was out there too long and was never given the opportunity to play with more than a 3 point lead.

Sure, there were some errors, but, when you defend 74 plays, that's bound to happen.
 

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These two say it all. 1-8 and 11-20 are just noise, no offense. The two items above are all you need to know about why we lost.

And as far as the grade goes, if there's something worse than an F-, then that's what he gets.
That's fair.

Hopefully he'll get his grade point average up next week!
 

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QB Watch, the Sequel: Will it be rookie athletic phenom Anthony Richardson or crafty veteran backup Gardner Minshew (and who would you prefer to face)?
 

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Did I hear it right that McVay applied for Witness Protection ?
 

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If Jackson is out then Noteboom should be at LT. Dotson or Allen should be at RG. Anchrum is a scrub he played poorly in preseason and poorly in two games now. If a gimpy Noteboom is better than a healthy Anchrum, cut the kid after 4 years he still is clueless how to play OG. His technique is so bad you could make the case he has no technique. In preseason I showed how he hung McAllister out to dry by not understanding what he was supposed to do. He bumbled around last week. He comes in and immediately gets a holding penalty that was so clear it showed how badly he's playing. Notice he immediately got yanked and an injured Noteboom returned and played better.

Anchrum so far is worse than Blythe.

McVay was out coached. It happens to all coaches but this one was easy to see. McVay didn't adjust, and neither did Morris who stayed with his Bend and Break style of defense. Dropped passes were all that kept it from being worse.
 

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2. Three golden opportunities to get into the End Zone... three failures.

End thread.

They were a train wreck inside the 10 yard line.

They needed 2019 Todd Gurley in there. A td scoring machine inside the 10 yard line that season.

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Why didn't they use Freeman, who is 6', 238 lbs and is faster with 4.5 speed? Running is an attitude, i.e. hombre contra hombre. McVay's weakness is he's too reliant upon finesse when brute force is required. It's why all his RBs with the exception of Gurley, who was 6' 222 lbs with 4.4 speed have been smaller guys. Finesse RBs with minimal grinder mentality. Michel was a grinder and they let him go.

Zach Evans is 5'11" 200 lbs and runs a 4.51. They need to play him to see what they have. He's got the physical metrics you want in a RB1, but there is only one way to know how good his field vision is and that is to play him. I predicted before the season he was going to be the lead RB and I still feel that way barring a trade.

LaFleur needs to play Evans and Freeman who can also pass protect. They could have their #1 & 2 for this season with those guys. I was hoping LaFleur would bring a new attitude to the run game. So far his impact has been zero.

McVay can't go on with Williams if he can't catch. His drops have been costly. So IMO it's next man up, i.e. Evans and Freeman.
 

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Lets not forget we got 2 TD's called back on us. Yeah it sucks but if those aren't taken away we win going away...

It is what it is, onto Indy.
 

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Lets not forget we got 2 TD's called back on us. Yeah it sucks but if those aren't taken away we win going away...

It is what it is, onto Indy.
Officiating, bounces, injuries, weird coaching decisions—I think if any one of those were reversed we’d have won.
 

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If the Rams don't commit to the run and establish a RB rotation it's going to be a long season. Stafford rarely has had a strong ground game and you wonder how much of that is on him.
McVay needs to get the Offense under center and start pounding the rock in games.
 

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Didn't we lose to a team that only got into the redzone once?
 

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Didn't we lose to a team that only got into the redzone once?
Morris has never had a problem preventing teams from getting into the red zone but he sure does give up a lot of FG tries (which is frustrating to me)
 

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Morris has never had a problem preventing teams from getting into the red zone but he sure does give up a lot of FG tries (which is frustrating to me)
I'll take that all day long if I had to choose between getting gashed for 7. 4 field goals is upsetting to live through but it only surrenders 12 points.
 

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Due to the timezone difference, I did not see this game. Mercifully so, from what it sounds like.

I was listening to a podcast this morning with Nick Write and Collin Cowherd. Nick was saying that it's not too late to blow up this thing and draft the USC QB...

This is where we are evidently.