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Good stuff, man. I don't have replay this year, so maybe you can look at why that Tavon stretch play was blown up by Floyd? I saw green on the outside, but Tavon got wrapped up almost immediately.
Good stuff, man. I don't have replay this year, so maybe you can look at why that Tavon stretch play was blown up by Floyd? I saw green on the outside, but Tavon got wrapped up almost immediately.
Cool, thanks. I just got so frustrated at the reaction around the net of people thinking we were running Tavon on a trap play. That was clearly drawn up as a stretch play, but quick penetration by Floyd blew the whole thing up. It looked like Tavon had the edge otherwise, because the TE sealed, and that could have been a big gainer.I will look at it, I think Floyd slipped behind our RG, but after the SNF game, they will post NFL replay. But I remember the play
This is great breakdown, thanks for posting! My opinion is this is primarily Ogletree's fault. He doesn't seem to recognize the danger of the overload and doesn't react to attack downhill to contain when the motion shows to the outside. In that alignment the DE is gonna get sealed there, the only question is if they will have to spend one or two guys to do it. Obviously Hayes needed to force the double team so Ogletree could attack the pull/lead back, but both Hayes and Ogletree -- and indeed the entire defense -- just waited to see what happened instead of trying to make something happen, and of course ended up wondering what happened.
I agree with you Hayes played it poorly, but still find more fault with Ogletree. The DT got penetration because Fusco (RG) pulled, a late fill block is expected in the play design so not a factor. You keep saying "the TE" controlled Hayes, but you are ignoring the second TE wing. Even *if* Hays had blown up the TE, the 2nd TE would have cleaned him out. Which is what I mentioned the best Hayes could have done was at least occupy a 2nd blocker by forcing the double, it was up to Ogletree to make the play.Hayes is playing what Rams call 7-wedge, and he has to get penetration, at least a little, and he didn't. He's supposed to extrend his arms and push (lift) the TE and the TE got to Hayes and "long armed" Hayes. The DT to that side got penetration and had Hayes set that edge, it would have been a tackle for a loss. AO didn't do great, there I agree with you, he got sucked in, but he had to protect his gap. Now, the coaches films will be more helpful, it's hard to see everything. But, IMO, Hayes needed to set the edge and he didn't. And that led to a a domino affect.
I agree with you Hayes played it poorly, but still find more fault with Ogletree. The DT got penetration because Fusco (RG) pulled, a late fill block is expected in the play design so not a factor. You keep saying "the TE" controlled Hayes, but you are ignoring the second TE wing. Even *if* Hays had blown up the TE, the 2nd TE would have cleaned him out. Which is what I mentioned the best Hayes could have done was at least occupy a 2nd blocker by forcing the double, it was up to Ogletree to make the play.
Overall an adjustment had to be made against that formation and it wasn't. I believe it was Ogletree's responsibility to recognize this formation, maybe it was JL. But I don't agree Hayes should be blamed for not keeping contain against a double TE overload if indeed he was aligned where he was supposed to be. Certainly he could have done a better job, but the responsibility of stopping that play passed to Ogletree, and he froze. He didn't really do anything to check C gap, and he certainly didn't react to outside flow once the OG had pulled all the way around the end, so it was too late.